Tuesday, June 16, 2009

One of the flaws I find with Islamic Doctrine regarding Jesus is...

I have a few Muslim friends, some Sunni, some NOI, some 5 Percenters some Moorish Americans. One of the flaws I find with the Islamic Doctrine regarding Jesus is that Muslims say:

1. They believe Jesus was a Prophet, some even say Messiah

2. We don't believe he was the son of God, died on the cross, will be King and rule the Kingdom of God that the Father has given him, etc., etc.


The problem here is that one cannot accept Jesus (Joshua, Yahshuyah) as the who is the Messiah (Moshiach) and then try to redefine what the books of the books of the Law (Torah) and the Prophets (Nevi’im) said the Messiah would be, to fit ones doctrine. The real choices here is:

A. Jesus is the Messiah and ALL that is written in the Old Testament (Tanakh) about Him is correct.... or

B. To say Jesus was NOT the Messiah, and therefore he could not even by a true prophet, because HE said he was the Messiah and that would mean he was a liar.


These are the ONLY valid options that hold any water. Islam says that Jesus is the Messiah, but denies who or what a messiah is supposed to be. In this vein, I prepared the following for understanding..

Salvation Map in the Scriptures, Part 1: © Richard Graves, 2002

To understand the PATH of SALVATION and the REASON for it, first one would have to understand the nature of the Mosaic Covenant (given at Sinai). The covenant (when you re read the books of Law, the Torah or the Pentateuch as it is called) you see that it was an IF / THEN situation. God would say to the people, IF you keep my covenant, THEN I will BLESS you, If you DO NOT then (basically speaking) I will Curse you. To quote him specifically from the Torah in this regard:

Deuteronomy 28:45: "Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue
thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:"


1st God tells Moses that the Jews / Hebrews (Israelites) WOULD NOT
keep this covenant. 1st, here God tell Moses what will happen with Israel in Deut 31:16

"And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them"

Moses Then reiterates this to the people, here in Deut 31:29

"For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands."

So this is definitely going to happen at some point after Moses dies. Now latter in the Ketivum (writings) and the Nevi'im (Prophets) we see this punishment eventually come. Now during this time God makes some promises. 1st, in the Books of Law God sets up the redemption of the people LONG before Moses was even around.

THIS we find by paying VERY close attention to the prophecies of the OT (Tanakh): Here is a map for the meaning of certain names, not for the purpose of "religiously" reciting names, or being "deep" but to see the Prophetic Picture of the Messiah and to Spiritually see Gods
plan for the KINGDOM:

Gen. 29:35: "And she conceived again, and bare a son: and she said, Now will I praise the LORD: therefore she called his name JUDAH; and left bearing"

So we see JUDAH means to PRAISE the LORD. A very simple, yet POWERFUL tool to get in relationship with the Father. This King David (who was from the Tribe of JUDAH) did OFTEN, as should WE.

Next we see a Prophecy to JUDAH from JACOB, Gen. 49:8-10, look at some of these words of PROPHECY to JUDAH:

In verse 8: "Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: THY HAND SHALL BE IN THE NECK OF THINE ENEMIES; THY FATHER'S CHILDREN SHALL BOW OWN BEFORE THEE."

So we see that the KING of ISRAEL (or God's people) WILL be from JUDAH (As Jesus / Yashuwah IS) HaMoshiach Adonai (Messiah / King) Next in verse 9 & 10,

"Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? The SCEPTRE SHALL NOT DEPART FROM JUDAH, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto HIM SHALL THE GATHERING OF THE PEOPLE BE."

So here we see that the sceptre of LAW will be to JUDAH. When the people are scattered the gathering of ISRAEL will be unto HIM. Again, this is about Jesu. This is important, I will elaborate more at another time, for now we shall go on to, we know DAVID was the 1st King of the Tribe of Judah, GOD made some specific Promises, i.e. 2nd Samuel 7:12-13: "And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I WILL ESTABLISH HIS KINGDOM. He shall build an house for my name, and I WILL STABLISH THE THRONE OF HIS KINGDOM FOR EVER. I WILL BE HIS FATHER, AND HE SHALL BE MY SON. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men"

Now here we see a few more things about the Lawgiver, or KING who will rule from the Line of JUDAH. The ones I will talk with you about are CAPITALIZED, however there are many things the Spirit (which is the Holy Ghost) shows here. God says HE will ESTABLISH this KINGDOM, this being the KINGDOM of GOD. God says HE will be his FATHER (Hence Jesus reference to El Elyon or Yah as some say as FATHER).

Now when you READ Isaiah the 1st chapter, you see by this time, Israel has gone and done it. God is now visiting his Judgment for their (or our) disobedience. HOWEVER, Because he LOVES Israel and WILL keep his PROMISES (i.e., the ones he Promised to Abraham and David) He tells the Prophet Isaiah this in Isaiah 49:6:

"And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my SALVATION unto the end of the earth"

Isaiah and Jeremiah and Ezekiel are full of Messianic prophecies, as the Spirit of God reveals. Now, let’s look at one "tie in" between the Prophecies of the OT and a Fulfillment of the New Testament….

In Acts 1:9, Jesus is taken up in a cloud. Now in the OT, this is witnessed by Daniel, where this cloud takes Jesus, take a look here at Daniel 7:13-14.

"I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like THE SON OF MAN CAME WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. AND THERE WAS GIVEN HIM DOMINION, AND GLORY, AND A KINGDOM, THAT ALL PEOPLE, NATIONS, AND LANGUAGES, SHOULD SERVE HIM: HIS DOMINION IS AN EVERLASTING DOMINION, WHICH SHALL NOT PASS AWAY, AND HIS KINGDOM THAT WHICH SHALL NOT BE DESTROYED."

Again, the King and KINGDOM that God Promised David.

Amen.

3 comments:

  1. Good analysis. I hope your Muslim friends take that seriously!

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  2. Ofcourse Isa (peace be upon him) (Greek = Ieosu = Yesus = Jesus) is a messiah and a prophet. In Islam, we call him 'Isa al-Masih' which means 'Jesus the messiah'. Muslims believe that he alive is in heaven right now and will return to Earth to defeat the Dajjal (AntiChrist for Christians) hence the name.

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  3. @Anonymous:

    It is good to know that you hold Jesus in such a high esteem, we share that in common. Do you alos believe in the need for repentance?

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